Lack of information for footage and information cause for concern or interest?

[Xarmark77]

I was thinking about this and I thought it might be an interesting topic for a posting. Does the fact that not only will it be over a month a way from now, but about TWO months before the game comes out, before there will be any footage or in-depth news. Just how much will they even want to share as not to break any promises. We basically have seen about 10 seconds of material. We have been given a very short synopsis of the features and a small list of vague minimal improvements in an IGN news article and occasional tweets.

Does this make you think that WWE '13 is pretty much "The Emperor's New Clothes", where this is pretty much it and they don't have anything to show for it? Does THQ have something to hide by not sharing information or not proud of what they've accomplished? Is this a stealth promotion with as little information given to the public because they know that they got burnt last year by hyping the game up and making a lot of promises that they ultimately couldn't keep? Do you think this shows that they have not made investments in the game to vastly improve it?

Contrary to this point; does it bring you a feeling of self-created hype because you the gamer are filling in the blanks of what this game is going to be like? Are you excited, that because so little has been relinquished to the public besides a few nuggets of information from an article, some tweets and brief snippets of footage that they want this to be a more "pure" build-up to a game with lots of surprises and improvements that they are keeping close to the vest? Does the lack of information remind you of the pre-internet days of reading just small pieces of information from a preview in a video game magazine? Does less information make you yearn to know more and that in itself is part of the thrill?

Are you concerned that not much has been done to improve upon WWE '12 or are you hyped up about all the things that "could" be in the game, but you just don't know yet? What does a WWE video game due out in FOUR MONTHS that we know so little about mean to you?

[Viper]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. WAAAAAAYYYYY too many questions asked for such a simple answer.

1. We're getting the bulk of info at SummerSlam...the same thing every year, for the past several years now. But after SummerSlam, we'll end up getting a consistant stream of information, leading up to the games release. Thers no concern about anything from me becausd this has become usual protocol.

2. We honestly should consider ourselves lucky. No other video game in existence gets as much info as these games do every year...most companies give you little tidbits, you read an article on IGN, then wait for its release. But with these games, at a scheduled time period, we get every last detail of these games, every last tidbit of info we could want...we get. Did they forget to mention something? OH look at that! Revealed it on Twitter. We harp on THQ alot, but when it comes to revealing their games, I have to give them all the props in the world.

[mccanehd]

The lack of info has never bothered me, especially when there is so long to go. By now we all realize that their marketing team runs what hwe hear and see about the game, and that they have a set schedule as to what and when the info is given to the fanbase. Is the game going to resemble 12? Yes, why because they basically told you that 12 was the base of the next 3 or 4 years, so it will def. resemble the game with tweaks along the way.

To me personally, there is nothing they can tell me in June that would be any different if they tell me the first week of October. I actually prefer that, because anything can happen from now till then that could force a removal of a new idea. You've been called liars for years, why not make sure things are running better before announcement?

I have to admit, I miss the early days when I knew nothing but the Roster and found out the rest when I played the game. The reactions were alot better then, because you took in all the info at once, some hated on things, others found stuff they liked.

[Xarmark77]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. WAAAAAAYYYYY too many questions asked for such a simple answer.

1. We're getting the bulk of info at SummerSlam...the same thing every year, for the past several years now. But after SummerSlam, we'll end up getting a consistant stream of information, leading up to the games release. Thers no concern about anything from me becausd this has become usual protocol.

2. We honestly should consider ourselves lucky. No other video game in existence gets as much info as these games do every year...most companies give you little tidbits, you read an article on IGN, then wait for its release. But with these games, at a scheduled time period, we get every last detail of these games, every last tidbit of info we could want...we get. Did they forget to mention something? OH look at that! Revealed it on Twitter. We harp on THQ alot, but when it comes to revealing their games, I have to give them all the props in the world.

First off, Viper it was two perspectives. The glass half empty or the glass half full. The questions I was giving were reasons why you might feel one way or another. Well, we had common ground for all of the time it takes to write the rest of this response...lol.

Secondly, yes, THQ does give info on WWE games more so than most games. The point I will make is that THQ is not competing with other games for information. They are competing with themselves. Two years ago, we got info and a lot of video footage right before E3 in June. Last year, we got a major reveal and the hype beyond any WWE game to the likes that I have ever seen at wait for it Wrestlemania. That would be late March or early April. They showed an hour of matches on a demo. This year we get an article with not a lot of substance, some tweets and seconds of video footage. I say this as a comparison to their previous record.

This is not a slight on THQ. It is the facts. So, I am just curious how WWE gaming fans felt about their approach. I have my own opinions, but I left them out I was just taking the temperature of the views of how gamers feel about the way THQ is spoon-feeding the news about their game that is just a few months away.

[The New Blueguy]

I think the lack of info boils down to:

1. THQ as a company felt that it wasn't worth making a big deal at E3 financially.
2. WWE will hype it in August at Summerslam for them, thus saving them money.
3. They don't have much to show right now, and knowing last year's flub why show anything until you're sure.

[Mariners4Life]

I think the lack of info boils down to:

1. THQ as a company felt that it wasn't worth making a big deal at E3 financially.
2. WWE will hype it in August at Summerslam for them, thus saving them money.
3. They don't have much to show right now, and knowing last year's flub why show anything until you're sure.

wwe12 didnt flop..

summerslam they will be showing a lot of stuff

[WWE RKO]

LOL.. by no means did WWE 12 flop, WWE 12 was the first game in history of the WWE to have record breaking sales etc. So it did pretty well. Probably more well then THQ would have thought it would have done.

Whatever the case, we are basically getting nearly the same game, however just a few changes here & there. Noting to much to get overly hyped or worried about, at least not yet.

[The New Blueguy]

Well, I apologize for not specifying what I meant but regardless of sales (Yes, I know it's highest selling WWE game to date), I meant that they really screwed up in the post launch period.

[Mariners4Life]

the community creations really have left a bad image on the game which I thought was the best game since svr06.

[WWE RKO]

Well, I apologize for not specifying what I meant but regardless of sales (Yes, I know it's highest selling WWE game to date), I meant that they really screwed up in the post launch period.

I totally agree with you on this, one would think THQ would be trying more to push there games so they get more sales etc, but instead they have WWE helping them out a bit with that.

I just wish they would have a bit more air time for the WWE Games ad's, instead of a quick 2 second ad or less. Okay maybe it's not that quick but it seems like it.

[WebbanationX]

3. They don't have much to show right now, and knowing last year's flub why show anything until you're sure.

Thing about that is so much of what went wrong last year they didn't even KNOW was actually wrong until it was too late. As crazy as that is and as rare as it is, it happened. I [assume] they're much more familiar with PredTech and how it affects the game in various departments which should lead to much much less of a mess. I still don't believe they didn't think their servers were gonna be hit as hard as they did... they should've known better and that CC situation should've been sorted before it even became a problem last year. Hopefully WWE12 was one huge learning experience from them comprised of a million and one mistakes that they WON'T be making a second time.

As for the lack of information, they did this in particular one year, can't remember which one it was but they had that teaser at E3 (?) of one of the SvR that had the montage of all the games up until that point talking about the evolution of the series. If I'm not mistaken, they didn't really let that cat out of the bag until Summerslam either. That's usually what Smackdown series info is... no matter what you hear between the announcement and Summerslam, SS is always the key.

You keep your fingers crossed during E3 but for anybody who's not looking for each and every tidbit it's Anouncement, Summerslam, Launch Day (or the week before when the reviews start dropping), that's it. They'll use Twitter to toss out some guppies to tease fans until SS then drop the big fish saving some final details to spread out amongst the remaining few weeks. I like the way they do it for the most part, feeding the info, dropping the Inside the Ring Vids, etc. I actually thought they overdid it last year but for those who wanted it, it was definitely there.

[Xarmark77]

Sumner Slam will definitely be when they start to give more details. I think though, people should be leary to believe what is told to be gospel even if THQ is the source. We might interpret certain information in one way and weren't told the limitations or YUKES has to change things or take stuff out because it's causing too many other issues.

I don't think THQ will reveal their hand too much, this year. I think the little THQ says the less they can be blamed for broken promises. If they learn anything from WWE 12 it would be that.

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[mccanehd]

Sumner Slam will definitely be when they start to give more details. I think though, people should be leary to believe what is told to be gospel even if THQ is the source. We might interpret certain information in one way and weren't told the limitations or YUKES has to change things or take stuff out because it's causing too many other issues.

I don't think THQ will reveal their hand too much, this year. I think the little THQ says the less they can be blamed for broken promises. If they learn anything from WWE 12 it would be that.

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That's the one thing people have to be mindful of every year, but they apparently cant help it. THQ can tell you what was suppose to be the plan for what goes into the game, but if something comes up, Yukes is the one who has to fix it, which could mean something THQ has already confirmed gets removed. Nature of the beast.

[WWE RKO]

I bet THQ has a million things they would like to have in each & every year, but it comes down to WWE approving it and giving the final say.

I believe Cory has said before if they where able to add and do more they would, but who knows if that is true or not.

[mccanehd]

I bet THQ has a million things they would like to have in each & every year, but it comes down to WWE approving it and giving the final say.

I believe Cory has said before if they where able to add and do more they would, but who knows if that is true or not.

See, that's the catch, and we've heard it on here, and everywhere else, you know the claim "If I worked for this company, the game wouldnt look like it does now." There is no chance that's reality. Think about this, when they sit down to figure out what new items are going into the game, as soon as they walk in the door, its a cluster fuck. The reason is, because we are not talking about 2 or 3 guys sitting in a room and figuring out where they are going, I dont know the real number but I'm guessing we are talking about over 20 minds meeting ALL with different ideas, and some of them are going to be opposite of someone else's idea. With that in mind, you have to throw in their community guys throwing out idea's coming from the fans, AND the yes/No about ideas that WWE is willing to allow. I've said this before, if you put 20 forum members in a room and tell them to make a wrestling game, it would never be done. That's where the difference is, they have to make consessions in order to keep the schedule going, whether they all agree with the ideas or not.

It will never happen, but it would be really fun to see a behind the scenes build meeting from thq, and the first list they send WWE and Yukes containing the roster and the new ideas that they want to put iit into the game

[Outlaw]

It will never happen, but it would be really fun to see a behind the scenes build meeting from thq, and the first list they send WWE and Yukes containing the roster and the new ideas that they want to put iit into the game

You're right, it probably won't ever happen, but damn if that wouldn't be something interesting to see. Maybe they can get someone to follow them through the process and show what occurs at each step, even if they wouldn't be able to show us EXACTLY what the original ideas were that didn't get included. I'd really like to see that, and I think it would go a long way to getting some of the more...shall we say, enthusiastic fans to back off from the "The game comes out in three days and I don't understand why you won't tell me if the wrestler who debuted yesterday will be in!" twitter rants. If everyone can point to something and say "See how it's done? That's why they can't do anything about the roster after that point," then it might calm the masses.

Then again, maybe THQ and WWE bank on those kinds of fans to buy the game in blind ignorant hope that impossible things will be in it. *shrugs*

[WWE RKO]

See, that's the catch, and we've heard it on here, and everywhere else, you know the claim "If I worked for this company, the game wouldnt look like it does now." There is no chance that's reality. Think about this, when they sit down to figure out what new items are going into the game, as soon as they walk in the door, its a cluster fuck. The reason is, because we are not talking about 2 or 3 guys sitting in a room and figuring out where they are going, I dont know the real number but I'm guessing we are talking about over 20 minds meeting ALL with different ideas, and some of them are going to be opposite of someone else's idea. With that in mind, you have to throw in their community guys throwing out idea's coming from the fans, AND the yes/No about ideas that WWE is willing to allow. I've said this before, if you put 20 forum members in a room and tell them to make a wrestling game, it would never be done. That's where the difference is, they have to make consessions in order to keep the schedule going, whether they all agree with the ideas or not.

It will never happen, but it would be really fun to see a behind the scenes build meeting from thq, and the first list they send WWE and Yukes containing the roster and the new ideas that they want to put iit into the game

You bring up some good points. However I believe sooner or later those same group of people that where bought into the meeting would agree on what needs to be address and what areas of the game should be fixed for that year, then again I could be wrong. One never knows for sure.

It sure would be interesting to see everybody in one of those meetings and see how it all comes together as far as the making of the game goes.

[mccanehd]

You bring up some good points. However I believe sooner or later those same group of people that where bought into the meeting would agree on what needs to be address and what areas of the game should be fixed for that year, then again I could be wrong. One never knows for sure.

It sure would be interesting to see everybody in one of those meetings and see how it all comes together as far as the making of the game goes.

Normally I would agree, but like every business, its a revolving door. Guys are hired/fired/quit/promoted/demoted, so that group keeps getting new people who have their own ideas as to what should be in the game. So basically, your starting over. Lets use me and you for an example. Let's say that for the past two years we have disagreed on a few things and agreed in other areas, now we are pretty sure what the other wants to do, BUT one of use/or both have been promoted/fired/whatever, the game keeps going but now someone new takes the place and their ideas could change things a bit, from would have been a normal/possible even ground. I think it was a year or two ago, someone asked how they could have a quality whatever, only to see it change the next year, it's because someone came into that meeting with enough backing with what they thought was a better idea and changed what they had. Its a problem that can not be taken care of, at least not properly.

[WWE RKO]

Normally I would agree, but like every business, its a revolving door. Guys are hired/fired/quit/promoted/demoted, so that group keeps getting new people who have their own ideas as to what should be in the game. So basically, your starting over. Lets use me and you for an example. Let's say that for the past two years we have disagreed on a few things and agreed in other areas, now we are pretty sure what the other wants to do, BUT one of use/or both have been promoted/fired/whatever, the game keeps going but now someone new takes the place and their ideas could change things a bit, from would have been a normal/possible even ground. I think it was a year or two ago, someone asked how they could have a quality whatever, only to see it change the next year, it's because someone came into that meeting with enough backing with what they thought was a better idea and changed what they had. Its a problem that can not be taken care of, at least not properly.

I get what your saying which makes a lot of sense and it's to bad that non of these people stick around long enough to help ensure the changes they bought in the first place keep coming and staying etc.

[Xarmark77]

I get what your saying which makes a lot of sense and it's to bad that non of these people stick around long enough to help ensure the changes they bought in the first place keep coming and staying etc.

I would have liked that the person who added all the reversals and the pin system in Smackdown! 2011 was able to have enough clout to have kept them in WWE '12. I believe it was Bryan Williams, but I can't say for sure. Unfortunately, those were taken out. He's a gameplay guy, but the chess pieces just keep getting moved around as Mr. McCane just elluded to. If they put those back or improve upon them, which there is no indication that they will, they have my money. Just the clutch positions, there were 15 reversals that were taken out and I am close to 30 just from playing with about 10 wrestlers (default movesets) in Smackdown! 2011 with properly timed reversal indicators and of course the old pin system; they have my money. There are just too many voices and it's hard to tune out all the NOISE.